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Apparently, I'll never be one of the cool kids. Ah, well.

On to other things.

This morning I was watching Spin City. This was the Michael J. Fox series about NYC City Hall politics. Now, this series is slashy enough, with Carter, the gay character, living with Stuart, the ladies' man, except that Stuart also comes across as just slightly less masculine. Which is a nice touch. And they've even had episodes about jealousy and abandonment when one or the other had a love interest or a new friend or something.

This morning, though, was "An Officier and a Gentleman" - Lou Diamond Philips plays Michael J. Fox's childhood friend, who is currently in the navy and who is, oh yes, gay. And he dates Carter. Most of the episode is Michael J. Fox dealing with finding this out (by seeing him in an almost clinch with Carter), but the final scene is Philips in full white uniform, carrying Carter off to the strains of "Love Lift Us Up." Which is cute.

But that's not what this is about. What it is about was that I started thinking about military men and former military men in the series we all watch. And, like many of us, I spent a lot of time in Sentinel Land, and now I'm dabbling a bit in Stargate Atlantis - not writing because I don't know enough of the series - I've seen less than half of season one, and I've missed a fair bit of season two. But the fanwriting is so strong (and the characters are so strong, and I could write and write about that) that I feel I know it enough to enjoy it. Anyway.

Jim and Blair meet John and Rodney.

Our two military types and our two science types.

Instant hatred.

I mean, can you just see Rodney and Blair? The anthropologist and the astrophysicist? And Jim still acts military, even if he's not there anymore, while John has never acted military ever. Not to mention, John is Mr. ATA gene, and Jim is still in the jungle, and I'll bet that John doesn't smell right, either. Oh, this would be. Interesting.

No, I'm not writing it, because it would need some long plotty plot to make it work, and I'm not even writing birthday fic these days, but it would be. Interesting.


ooh, i second that!

[watches the rodney mckay in her head raise an eyebrow and make scare-quotes around the word "science" when he talks about blair.][and then glares at him on behalf of social scientists everywhere. ;-)]

Oh, yeah. :) Be *hilarious*.

John and Blair, however, would probably get along just fine. To Jim and Rodney's annoyance.

They would, wouldn't they?

And they'd enjoy every second of the annoyance, too.

I love it. I really, really love it. And I agree with ellen_fremedon: only John and Blair would be able to stand each other. Rodney would get on Jim's last nerve, and piss Blair off by mercilessly mocking anthropology, alternative medicine, what passes for research in the soft sciences, and every other thing Blair did or said. John and Jim would take one look at each other, size each other up, and spend the rest of their time circling around each other like predators who know better than to move in for the kill.

But John and Blair could probably bond. If nothing else, they'd probably get into a sort of one-up argument about who was the more burdened of the two of them. (Blair: "He's anal retentive. I mean, like, he takes anal retentive to places it has never gone before. He lines all his socks up the same way in the drawer, man." John, ticking his points off on his fingers: "Neurotic. Paranoid. Pessimistic. Cynical." Pause. "Did I mention that he loves airline food?")


I wonder what John and Rodney's spirit animals would be.

Spirit Animals

Now that's a question.

Not that John would be interested - he would be amused if someone told him, but otherwise, but he wouldn't otherwise care. Arctic tern maybe. A bird, but not a bird of prey. I don't see John as a predator, really.

Rodney would be dying to know but he'd feel honor-bound to scoff. And when it turned out he was some sort of, I don't know, rabbit, he'd bitch at John all night about the idiots who'd come up with such things, and how could anyone rational believe that, and by morning he'd decide that rabbits were, of course, superior creatures and therefore it made sense that he was one.

Re: Spirit Animals

I was actually thinking of if John or Rodney was a Sentinel. (Which, come to think of it - John and Rodney have a small part in the latest chapter of Dasha's ongoing Sentinel x various AU, with Rodney as the sentinel. But she doesn't say what their spirit animals are.)

And I didn't think of this until I read your response, but - did you read trinityofone's Daemonology? (SGA x His Dark Materials series, and although I've read - and love love love, and think everyone should read - the series, she has a primer (linked at the top of the Daemonology page) for people who don't know HDM.)

And, okay, in case you haven't read HDM, I need to explain a tiny bit about it. In that universe, people have daemons, which are basically part of themselves, almost like their souls or their consciences or their inner voices, but visible and tangible and outside their bodies, although tied to them. Daemons take on animal forms; children's daemons change forms all the time, try out bunches of different ones, but somewhere around puberty the form becomes fixed.

And Trinity took SGA and set it in that universe, so everyone had a daemon - fixed form, of course, because they're older. (The fixed form thing is very important in the book, and the nature of a person's daemon is incredibly, incredibly revealing about his character.) Rodney's is a mouse. John's is a snake. Trinity said that she considered giving him a bird, but decided not to, and the first few paragraphs of the story make it clear, at least to me, why she did that.

I find it fascinating that you picked rabbit for Rodney and Trinity picked mouse, and you both had such similar reasons and such similar versions of Rodney's response to that. (You are so ready to write SGA. This proves it.)

And I also see the bird and snake responses as very similar. Again, interesting.

(My own answer to the question, by the way, of what their spirit animals or daemons would be: for Rodney, a ferret. Small, pretend-meek, intensely curious, intelligent, dextrous, easy to overlook, determined, dedicated to problem solving, difficult to contain. Surprisingly affectionate once they've bonded, but they take a while to warm up to their people, and often don't much care for people other than their own. Also, the males give off an unpleasant smell unless descented. For John, a mongoose. Not a traditional predator, but capable of defeating much larger, more deadly enemies - cobras - when his family or his territory is threatened. Much more curiosity than sense, destructive. Dedicated, protective, intelligent, agile, fast. Thick hide and bushy, protective hair.

Obviously, my answers aren't as close to yours or Trinity's as yours were to each other's.)

Re: Spirit Animals

I have read The Golden Compass, but got stuck in the second book. I loved the concept of Daemons, too.

And, yeah, I read that - and, you know. Mouse works, too. Snake works. I'm not really good with spirit animals (I don't know if they're kosher or not, so I kinda steer clear in real life), but Rodney has such delusions of grandeur that he'd *expect* a lion and reason his way to bragging about a mouse.

I do like ferret, because, yeah. That's John, too. Except he does love flying so much.

As for Rodney - I'm not as bright as he is, and I don't nearly have his ego, but, my goodness. I can get into his head without even trying.