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We have English Name

Our beautiful (I've seen pictures) new niece now has an English name:

Winifred Celia. Which is just lovely - uncommon but not in a "Baby's named a Bad, Bad Thing" sort of way - just a pretty old-fashioned name. And it passes the Supreme Court test, too.

"Chief Justice Winifred Celia Baker" :)

She's named for two very different remarkable women.

Hebrew name TBA (Aunt Win wasn't Jewish and didn't have a Hebrew name, so they have to figure that one out.)


If I may suggest for Celia Tzila which means shadow or shade in Hebrew and sounds really pretty.

Winifred is the German form of:


Gender: Feminine

Usage: Welsh
Derived from the Welsh elements gwen "white, fair, blessed" and frewi "reconciliation, peace". This was the name of a 7th-century Welsh saint and martyr.

Oy. Ummm...Yaffa or Bracha? That's fair or blessed.

Celia is already taken - Tzivia, which was their grandmother's Hebrew name.

Bracha is out - her father's Hebrew middle name is Baruch. Also, too frum.

We're suggesting Gila or Rina because one of the definitions of Winifred we saw was "Joy". Simcha is out because that's my father-in-law. Levana might work, though. I like Yaffa, of course.

It's all up to them, of course.

Rina is lovely, easy to say and doesn't sound too frum. Yaffa is wonderful, but I always associate it with the Holocaust author.

Congratulations! And that is a lovely name.

Good strong name, Winifred.

The last Brigadier in the old Doctor Who was called Winifred.

And I knew a truly remarkable one; she was an Anglican nun who had been a nurse in France in WWI after lying about her age (she was 15 and claimed to be 18, and to be honest, when I was 21 I wouldn't have liked to be involved in the things she was). More things after that which I've forgotten, but along the same sort of lines.

I think it means "friend of peace". Is that likely to be any help in figuring out the Hebrew name?

Winifred is one of my favorite names. So pretty!

I think it means "friend of peace".

It does indeed. wine, friend, is the same element in names like Edwin and Godwin.

They don't need it, of course, but I completely approve of it.

It is a good, strong name.

Aunt Win was married to Uncle Dick, who passed away himself a few years ago.

Both were academics, and they are the reason that my brother-in-law chose to be a college professor himself. I only got to meet Win near the end of her life, after a medication she needed to stay alive gave her a long series of small strokes. This means I only met a shadow of whom she had been, but that shadow was amazing. She died a month after my wedding.

She'd been a history of science professor, specializing in Galileo.

So I'm not the only one who uses the "Supreme Court test"! You should have seen the look of relief on the midwives' faces when we told them the Future of Fandom's name for the birth certificate -- they hate having to act all happy about names (a) that are tacky but (b) that they've seen 50 instances of already this year, in 5 different spellings.

Mazel Tov to all.

"her royal highness Winifred Ceila Baker" also has a nice ring to it...

Mazel tov! What a lovely name. I love the supreme court test.

On the newsgroup soc.genealogy.jewish, common unanswerable questions include "What Hebrew name corresponds to this English name?" and "What English name corresponds to this Hebrew name?"

I have three relatives named Aaron: Aaron, Richard, and Arthur.

And when she has dirty diapers, they will be full of Winnie's Pooh.

(ducks & runs)

Seriously, Mazel Tov. I like her name.

Supreme Court test: excellent!

Winfred Celia is a pretty name. It's unusual, but not in the way a lot of kids seemed to be named lately - Apple or Castle or Bumblebee or whatever else it is their parents think is cute for a baby, and which the child will probably resent their parents for for a good many years.

That's a beautiful name! Very elegant and classy. It sounds like she could be a cousin of Queen Elizabeth.