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Not everyone celebrates every holiday. This sounds like whining, and maybe it is. In which case ,

This is about assumptions. St. Valentines Day is relatively innocuous. It's not religion based, like Christmas or Easter or Hallowe'en. Except, it is because it's a saint's day. But that's completely irrelevant at this point.


Not everyone celebrates every holiday. This doesn't mean that those who do shouldn't be happy and celebratory, or that they shouldn't talk about it on line or on lj or whatever. I know I talk about my holidays before and after the fact.

But make allowances for those who, for whatever reason - religious, personal, political - do not do so. Be aware they exist. Those of us who have minority holidays are always aware of this. We know that many are completely unaware our holidays even exist, or what they mean.

I think that's all I'm asking for here. Awareness.


*hugs* FWIW, I am always aware that my Orthodox friends do not celebrate Valentine's Day, or Halloween, or any number of common "American" holidays that come from Christian or pagan traditions. I have on and off issues with them myself, but now one of my sweeties (who is also a pagan) finds it to be important, so I'm thinking about it again. I'm sorry if my last post added to the annoyance.

Certainly not. That was something completely different.

Best of luck to you, too.


I hadn't actually even thought of the fact that Valentines is a Saint day. Makes sense though. I don't usually think about it, period.

Actually I was thinking of you today. I was following links to Modest Clothing sites online. I thought most of them would be catering to Islamic women, or Orthodox women. Instead, a large number of them were actually companies that provided "modest" clothing to Christian women. A lot were for Mormons, and a number for other sects.

The definition of modest varies quite a bit. I was keeping an eye out incase I ran across a particularily pretty snood or the like.

On a totally different subject:

I think you should start a movement to gain wider recognition for Purim.

Have you perchance heard about the modest Orthodox Israeli supermodel? (Not a joke, honest!) I was really impressed by her story. arib had a link to it in his journal.


Purim falls on March 18 this year.

Which means Purim starts on March 17th evening.

St. Patrick's Day.

Everyone get drunk!

See, I think it is the way to make clear that Jewish holidays aren't _all_ about fasting and prayer. A religiously mandated drinking party could take off quite nicely.

I'm certainly willing to host one :)

I can't believe it coincides with St. Patricks, the christian drink all you can holiday. Imagine the chaos.

Can't quite get away from the fasting and prayer bit, I'm afraid. We spend the day before Purim fasting, and synagogue services include the reading of the book of Esther, and to the Orthodox, they're mandated.

Most of the drinking is on the actual day, although not for me. We get a glass of wine with the required (yes, required!) festive meal.

You can put the pre-party fasting in the small print. And the book of Ester is pretty interesting.

I just think it's a holiday waiting for a larger audience.

I hope no one gave you a hard time about not observing Valentine's Day?

No, of course not.

It's just the general *assumption* that everyone celebrates it that bothers me.

Or that those who don't, don't for lack of romance. Which, in my case, is clearly not so.

I just wish people would *think*.

I, at least, always try to phrase my questions, when asking them generically to a group or to someone that I don't know well, as "are you doing anything for X" rather than "WHAT are you doing for X". Does that satisfy the issue?

(Although I remember that it bothered you, I think, when I asked on a survey "What are you dressing up as on Halloween?", when I fully expected some of the answers to be "nothing; I don't celebrate that holiday." But I understand that that wasn't understood, and I need to make it more clear in the future.)